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Diesel
02-03-2004, 09:13 PM
Got a little dilema here, could use some advice. Most of you are familiar with my situation at my current job, and how desperate I am to get out of it, so I won't bore you with the details. For those who don't remember, here's a reminder: http://tinyurl.com/27me7

My current job search has been totally fruitless since it started 15 months ago. The *most* promising lead was a callback from Primerica, if that gives you any indication of what I've dealt with.

Well, last week I got my first real callback from an ad online. It led to an interview yesterday, which went very well from the perspective of my presentation to the interviewers. However, my initial impression was that the position wasn't really what I was looking for, the salary didn't seem like it was going in the direction I needed it to go (although they didn't specify), and the company didn't really seem that together based on the facilities.

I'm currently working as a Sr. Network Engineer, being the point person on major projects and personnel, taking advantage of my managerial experience
in various environments. The position they're hiring for is basically phone support for their products (CAT5 KVMs and related equipment), along with some on-site training and product support for customers.

They asked me in advance for my salary expectations, which I was fairly sure would scare them off. My current salary is woefully low, as I took a significant paycut for my current job, and am over 12 months overdue for a promised raise which I don't expect to be honored. Despite that, they asked during the interview how flexible I was with the salary requirements, so my expectations are not that there would be a significant increase.

In preparation for the interview, I checked the companies website, which had a very professional look for a computer hardware manufacturer. The office I had my interview in was their North American HQ. In actuality, the office space is in a run down building in a run down part of town, taking up some offices on the 2nd floor of a 2-story walkup. Although they've been there 6 years, my intial impression was that the office had not been used for some time because of the dire condition of the premises (water damaged ceiling tiles, computers set up on folding tables, etc.). Further, their "North American HQ" housed a total of "5 or 6 employees" (when I asked the interviewers, it took them roughly 45 seconds of discussion between them to figure out if they had "5" or "6" people in the office).

In total, they estimated the company size at about 80-90 employees. Their website lists several continental HQs, which I can only imagine would be in the same condition.

Some other issues:
The interview was constantly interrupted by telephone calls. Since no one else was there to take the calls, the one interviewer kept breaking off from the interview and taking the phone call without excusing himself, while I completed my answers to the other interviewer.

The position would require corporate training at their global HQ in Jerusalem, which isn't exactly a friendly environment ATM. Not a place I'm really too keen on going for 1-2 weeks. No job is worth getting killed by a wayward bus tire, IMHO.

Here's the catch:
I'm REALLY anxious to get out of my current position, and this place has called me back for a 2nd interview.

Do I...?
a) Take the 2nd interview on the chance that I can get out of my current nightmare of a job, if even for a little while.
or
b) Politely thank them for the consideration for the position, but explain that it's not exactly what I see fitting into my career plans at this point.
or
c) Another suggestion.

Diesel
02-03-2004, 09:15 PM
Thing is that this guy is either expecting me for the interview tomorrow, or at least expecting to hear from me to schedule the interview, so any advice and input would be MOST appreciated.

moonsee
02-03-2004, 09:20 PM
well.... based on your many many issues with your current place of employement..... i'd say go for it..... though one thing that kinda sits in the back of my mind is..... you will most likely be VERY overqualified for this position
that isnt necessarily a bad thing... but in a situation like that i would wonder how safe my job is when they can bring some college student in for significantly less pay
as for the condition of the office..... that is somewhat scary as well. i work for a small ISP now, and our office is in a similar sounding area... in a similar building, but we atleast have DESKS for the computers... and no real damage to the building
tough call.... it probably cant hurt to go for the second interview though

lobo
02-03-2004, 09:46 PM
You should to go. I do not see a reason why You should to pass it away.

Diesel
02-03-2004, 09:51 PM
I'm just wondering if it's even worth my time. It just doesn't seem like a position that I would want. Phone support was my very first job in IT, and I have no desire to go back to that, to be perfectly honest.

As much as I want to get out of my job, I do want to go somewhere into a position that I'm not going to want to run screaming from in 6 weeks.

moonsee
02-03-2004, 10:00 PM
As much as I want to get out of my job, I do want to go somewhere into a position that I'm not going to want to run screaming from in 6 weeks.
yea.... phone support does that to ya

koehiir
02-03-2004, 10:08 PM
DD - firstly, I'm glad you got an interview, but it doesn't sound too good to me. Every job interview that I've ever gone on did the first best impression game better than that. Even if the company didn't have a glamorous office, they'd take me out eat at a nice restaurant.

I'd go on the second interview and point out all of your concerns, and push for the max. salary. Maybe there is a reason for their demeanor that's not negative - I doubt it - sounds like they don't have a clue. It also sounds like you won't be happy with this job either, but if you can get some money and look at this job as a temp job, maybe it would be tolerable :shrug:

either way ya go - good luck.

spidergoolash
02-03-2004, 10:18 PM
i'd say go on the second interview. you've got nothing to lose. and hit them up w/your salary requests.

i'd be worried if this place is stable or not. will they even be around in five years? :(

you might be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, so to speak. i don't know ... can you work there part-time to see if you like it first? don't know if they'd go for that.

good luck tho in whatever you choose. let us know how things work out.

lobo
02-03-2004, 10:18 PM
Why do You think that it will be a phone support ?

I wrote that You should to go only because :

1) the minimal chance to get good job exists anytime
2) you can reject their proposal after second interview too. and it will be quetly polite.
3) some experience. next time you will have pattern to lead with. however - you already have such experience.
4) AA members go to their meetings also because they can to make shure that their current state is much better than any possible further. i mean. this interview can help you to find some advantages in your current job. this can help you to correct your attitude and ... i do not know ... new viewpoint. sorry for this paragraph ... looks yacky

However ... I will never recommend to You to do things which You do not like in advance. If You do not like this thing - do not do it. It will be at least honest in yourself. :nod:

I wish You a luck.

monsieurjohn
02-03-2004, 10:57 PM
quite a pickle...

since you're dying to get out of your current job, the variety of having something different, if only for a short time, might save your sanity. but as spidey said, push for the salary you want and need. if they balk, it's too bad for them. if they don't, then suddenly you have a fresh job that's easier and pays well while you're still looking for something better

Prox
02-03-2004, 11:37 PM
I would say take the second interview, and possibly raise a couple of your concerns. You dont have to take the job even after the second interview.

On the other hand, if you are sure you dont want it dont waste your time and just wait for the next oppertunity.

Diesel
02-04-2004, 05:38 AM
Why do You think that it will be a phone support ?


They told me that the job is "predominantly phone support"... at least 80%, probably more.

WaterB
02-04-2004, 05:47 AM
the company sounds more shady than the one i work at :P

their buisness model must be simliar to ours.. finding facotories to partner up with.. i really doubt they manufacturer the products themselves which is a huge dissadvantage these days since there's so much competition..

if it were me.. i'd stick with your current job and wait for another opportunity. (unless this other place is like 5mins from your house or something.)

Panache87
02-04-2004, 05:49 AM
If this job oppritunity is not what you're looking for, I think you should take the second interview for a second opinion. But, if you are TOTALY not interested in the job, I think that you should politely thank them for their time and consideration for the position, but tell them that it's not in your career plans right now. They'll understand if you put it politeley to them.

MO
02-04-2004, 06:28 AM
I think you have too many doubts off the bat- but you're trying to convince yourself to consider it b/c you're so unhappy at your present job.

Maybe try the second interview to raise your concerns (and go in knowing that you have nothing to lose) and that will help alleviate the "would have, should have, could have" syndrome that most of us experience.

mthrlangl
02-04-2004, 07:45 AM
Could you use the interview as leverage with your current job?

I'm going with the consensus of at least giving them one more shot at interviewing you. Lay out your concerns and salary requirements. But..like MO said, if you feel that strongly against it..it's prolly not the Job For You. If the interviewing company comes through, yay. If not, all you lost was an hour or two of your day.

Good luck :)

Alyth
02-04-2004, 03:11 PM
Well I don't know if you already went for the interview or scheduled for one but I'd say move on. You are better qualified than phone duty. From the sound of things, you need to be challenged and be able to work with your hands more. You seem like the kind of guy that likes being active on the job and in charge of at least whatever you are doing.

I think you are going to feel just as tied down in this possible job than you do in your current one. I'd say keep trying to look around. I know how much you hate this job but it probably isn't worth your time to concider this one. If you went on a second interview, I'd suggest you ask more pressing questions about what it is you are looking for exactly and find out from them directly if they think they can accomodate your needs. You need a better salary, you need challange, etc... If they can't accomodate you, you know that this might not work out.

It's up to you. Good luck!! :winkgrin:

Diesel
02-04-2004, 03:15 PM
I went with my gut instinct on this one, and politely declined the 2nd interview. I told them that the job duties just didn't coincide well with the type of career-building opportunity I was looking for at this point in my IT career.

They were pretty clear in the first interview that it was going to be mostly phone support of their product, and that my only other tasks would be in support of other office personnel when they were busy.

Frankly, that's like 5 steps backwards, and sounds exactly like my first ever IT job, just with better pay. I lasted 2.5 months at that job before feeling really bored, and I couldn't imagine that this would be much better.