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[Diesel]

Let me know when you hit 5000, junior. Then, we'll talk.
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[BRiT]

If only I started when they were dishing out betahairpins that only took 15 minutes to process...

Lets just try and see any of you overtake me on DNet's RC5-64 challenge, over 1.1 million blocks. http://www.aliensoup.com/ubb/smilies/supergrin.gif http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/psummary.php3?id=132853

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[Diesel]

BRiT&gt; Wouldn't have made a difference, since those 15 minute Betahairpins yielded zero credit. So, in essence, it was 15 wasted minutes from a stats standpoint.
And why the heck would I want to bother with RC5? The project has already proven itself useless. Considering that so many machines are cranking away at it for, what, the past 2 years, and it still hasn't been crackede, that just goes to show that the purpose of the project is self-defeating. If that many random tries at the code haven't beaten it yet, it's safe to say that it's secure on today's systems.

Charles&gt; If we both maintain our current pace, I should hit 20k on or about 9/30. At that point, you should be close to 18k.
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Dan, RC5 isn't so much to prove that the 64bit cypher system is secure, but more to gauge how long it does take to crack, as well as the performance improvements in technology. It was also one of the forefounding projects in the general-public distributed computing realm. It's success has lead to further developments for other causes.

Out of all the distributed computing projects out there, I find SETI@Home to be the most worthless one. Analyzing less than 1% of 1% of the observed sky for intellectual life. Grim odds. The only positive aspect of SETI@Home is how much press it received that helped expose the distributed-computing realm to the public.

Besides... The proof of intelligent life existing outside of Earth is that they have not contacted us. http://www.aliensoup.com/ubb/smilies/supergrin.gif

Charles, looks like you'll be shy by a mere 2K when DD his his 20K. Nothing a few dual-processor AthlonMP systems wouldn't solve. http://www.aliensoup.com/ubb/smilies/smile.gif

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[Diesel]

But at RC5's core is the quest to find and test an encryption algorithm that's as impossible to crack as can be tested.

The reason this approach is self-defeating is because if the project is successful, then all of the participants have essentially accomplished nothing, since the algorithm was not cracked. In the end, this route has done nothing but waste people's time trying to crack something that cannot be cracked.
If the algorithm IS cracked, then the project, by definition, is unsuccessful.

As they've designed it, the project cannot succeed, whether it's a success or failure.

Even if it's looked at from the standpoint of how long, it still falls back on the fact that it is or is not cracked. Like I said, if it's taken this long already, with as much computing power thrown at it, it is, for all intents and purposes, uncrackable through even extreme means, and thus the project has ceased to be useful.
Even if it should be cracked, the project then immediately ceases to be useful, because a new algorithm must be devised.

I could go around in logical circles like this all day, but it always comes back to the point where there's really no useful purpose that RC5 is serving anymore.

I do agree with you about SETI, to a point. the project is just way too limited. When space exploration technology can catch up to the point where a significant portion of space can be monitored, there may be a useful way to approach it, but in it's current form, the data is worthless.


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Originally posted by Diesel Dan:
BRiT&gt; Wouldn't have made a difference, since those 15 minute Betahairpins yielded zero credit. So, in essence, it was 15 wasted minutes from a stats standpoint.

No credit, that's no fair...I wonder if that's why my stats stopped...those took me about 2 days to get through, and I got lots of em.

BTW, when I saw this thread topic, I thought you were going to say the whole team hit 10,000. But just you??? Whoah.



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[Diesel]

hermanm&gt; As of the 3PM update today, the team has 31,479 work units completed. http://statsman.noxordo.com/foldingstats/310.html

The betahairpins that took 15 minutes to complete haven't been given out in quite some time. The ones that followed were named the same, but took roughly an hour. Those work units received credit, but the original ones did not. (Times are approx. for a 800MHz or higher T-bird)
The difference was the number of Nsteps required to complete the work unit. I can't see one of the short ones taking 2 days, even on a really slow machine. You probably were getting the latter ones, which you should have gotten credit for.


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I haven't really been following the deal with the 2.0 client that is in the works. I can only hope that based on the results of the benchmark when the client first starts up it will intelligently select the work unit. Or even provide a user selectable preference for work units. If they do this, then even slow machines (P166MMX) should be able to contribute to the cause within the time limit.

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Finally, I hit 10,000 work units.
Yay me!!!
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It's about time too! http://www.aliensoup.com/ubb/smilies/wink.gif

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