John Kerry's problem

[taylort232]

A lot of people say that John Kerry lost due to his extremely liberal viewpoints on [insert controversial issue here.] They say he lost because he didn't appeal to the average American, who believed that partial birth abortion is wrong, and that marriage should probably be made between a man and a woman. I have a different theory.
I think John Kerry lost because he is a *****. I was so confused on his stand in the Iraq war, on the Vietnam war, and on health care. What was your actual plan to leave Iraq, Mr. Kerry? I mean, honestly, if he had any type of conclusive argument for any of these issues, maybe he'd have gotten voters like myself. I think I would have voted for Edwards, for instance. If Kerry doesn't know what he thinks about these relatively defining issues, how can he be trusted with Social Security problems? How can he be trusted with welfare? I mean, think about it.

[MrsD]

:icon_salu I agree with you, taylort (except for the very descriptive word you used on line 5 - - :eek: ). I probably would have headed towards Kerry's way if I could pin him down on anything. I kept thinking to myself that (God forbid) if another attack came along, where would he be, and how would he react? I never got a very clear picture of that, and in the face of SOME things that I'm disappointed in Bush about, he was the obvious choice for ME. The more I listened to John Kerry speak, the more disinterested in him I became. On another view, I'd be damned if I had anything to do with Teresa Heinz Kerry being the First Lady!!! "Lady" is no word for that woman.

[Alton589]

Ok I have to weigh in on this one. For starters are you ppl blind, come on WTF, Kerry had news roll after news roll of him on the front line in Vietnam, That makes him not a ***** but a true soldier, brave, coragous. Then when he comes back has the balls to speak out against a war he was fighting in. Maybe he didnt do everything they said he did, who the frick cares HE WAS THERE!!! Bush served yes but not in Vietnam, nor anyplace else dangerous, dont call Kerry a ***** when he fought in the worlds most crappy war, the same war that Iraq will one day be refered to. Also the social security thing, come on it dont take a scholar to figure out that Bush will completetly try to trash the program. The idea of Bush's plan would be good if it started that way, but to take 1/2 of the income out to allow ppl to blow it in bad investments will put us into a tail spin of mamoth perportions. Think about it, We are comming into the highest payout cycle in Social Security, he wants to take 1/2 the income away, WHO WILL PAY? No politician will allow this to happen unless he is a lame duck. Then lets say that he does get it passed, the social security get tax dollars from other programs, but then miss betty makes bad investment decisions or Bush's enron buddies start another buisness and wham now the tax payers will now have to pay welfare to Miss Betty cause she cant live in retirement....come on ppl get a brain.

[taylort232]

I wasn't calling Bush's plans for the economy or any part of it necessarily "better." And as for vietnam, Kerry has one of the most highly scrutinized careers of any soldier I can think of. Try googling "John Kerry Vietnam." And in any case, the fact that he was there doesn't necessarily write him off from being a "*****." In any case, even if he did "volunteer" (thank you JohnKerry.com) to fight in Vietnam, that doesn't mean that he isn't a political *****. There's a big difference.

[M@Broz]

Better a political ***** then a political puppet :laughing9 .

But honestly what it all comes down to is the advisers and ideals of the party. The president is really just a figurehead. But who cares, He is the President of the United States of America, and i am an american, and i believe that since he is representing us as a people, that we should support him regardless of if we like him politically or not. I just wouldn't of picked him first for president :laughing7

[Alton589]

Don't get me wrong I am a patriot of america and do support the President durring his term, However it is my right and responsibility to constantly challenge our leaders and voice my concern of the policies and laws that are enacted on the populus, that is America. Not to challenge, speak out, voice concern, Vote, would be very un-patriotic.

[MrsD]

Both Alton and Broz have hit it in the head in their last posts. NOT to voice opinions, debate or vote would be an un-American thing to do. :icon_salu As people of the same country we need to stand behind our President, (leader or figure-head - whichever you prefer) and work together regardless of who we would have voted for. What bugs the crap out of me are these people who believe that the Presidency was stolen and there is some huge conspiracy with embers still aglow.

[taylort232]

Better a political ***** then a political puppet :laughing9 .



Could you elaborate? I haven't seen anything that showed Bush as a "puppet." If anything, most would consider him more of a free will. Even Cheney (pretty far to the right) doesn't agree with some of his legislative attempts.

Check out www.whywehatebush.com for some great consipiracy (and credible I'm sure, with references like "a guy's blog") theories concerning the 2004 election.

[GoingNova]

Bush does many things on principle - not everything - his immigration is an example of him doing things purely for politics. That is the sign of a LEADER. He doest things that he believes to be right, regardless of political opinion. I prefer a man like that then a man who can not make up his mind on an issue until he figures out what the majority of people think he should do. Time after time, Bush has done things that have hurt him politically:

Iraq - almost cost him re-election
Stem Cell Research
Foreign Policy
Faith Based Charity
Education
Social Security


He takes his stand on these issues because he believes they are the right thing to do, even though they are, generally speaking, a political liabilty. I respect that, and apparently a majority of the population does as well.

[Alton589]

Come on you cited every reason why not to re-elect this dude. But yet your for him....what logic is that??? He makes all these mistakes but its allright cause he thought he was doing the right thing??? What logic is that??? Now as for a guy who just stated the he didnt want a leader who did what his populus wanted, what world you come from because that is what a president is suppose to do. Actually ANY elected official should constantly listen to his people and do as they ask him to do. A politician is suppose to do what the majority wants him to do , not be a rouge soldier doing what he thinks is right. Come on wise up America, Politicians are ELECTED by Corporate America or Corporate anyone who has enough dollars to spin whatever non-sence they can to get their dog elected. Dont sit her and say you dont want a president who doesnt do what America wants, Do what you wish.....I simply ASK WHAT LOGIC IS THAT?????

Presidents should do as the Citizens of this country would want them to do......That is the logic that most makes sense!!!

[MrsD]

Unfortunately idealism and realism do not make pleasant bed fellows.

[taylort232]

Bush was elected by the conservative crowd (mostly) so, in theory he IS reflecting what the majority of HIS voters wanted in a president. Although unpopular nationally, he is representing his base.