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EXBRIT
04-28-2005, 11:53 PM
Bush has to be one of the worst US presidents in history. He is dangerously stuipid and is only harming America in the eyes of the world. Americans just can't see it because they are blind to anything outside the US and all pumped up with self importance. If you think Hitlers propagand was good take a look at Bush's.

MrsD
04-28-2005, 11:59 PM
I want to comment but don't want to waste words as I'm tired right now and will have much more of a response later. To EVER compare Hitler to Bush is an insult to any American, born and bred or naturalized. I applaud your vocalization (most imprtantly your RiIGHT and ABILITY to vocalize it - don't forget THAT little bit of freedom offerd you) but will in fact defend my President and the country he stands for.

icpfreaker05
06-15-2005, 01:31 AM
Bush is ignorant. Think about this: Was you better off before or after he became president?! I am sorry, but I think most of us were better off WAY before he came in the picture.

whose truth is true
07-06-2005, 10:16 AM
I don't support what I don't support. Just because someone becomes President doesn't mean he automatically gets my support. For me, first loyalty after God is to myself, my own integrity....if I couldn't support him enough to vote for him, I can't support him afterwards.

KorwinDallas
07-09-2005, 05:19 AM
I want to comment but don't want to waste words as I'm tired right now and will have much more of a response later. To EVER compare Hitler to Bush is an insult to any American, born and bred or naturalized. I applaud your vocalization (most imprtantly your RiIGHT and ABILITY to vocalize it - don't forget THAT little bit of freedom offerd you) but will in fact defend my President and the country he stands for.


Hitler wasn't necessarily bad... he spoke to an econimically depressed country, and gave them something to blame and fight against. Even if it was horrendously inhuman, he did know how to speak to his people and rally an entire nation to an unjust cause. The man was the world's best (and worst) cheerleader. It's not him to blame... it's cheerleaders! Because they try to get you and everyone else to act in unison towards a united cause! There, see! Cheerleaders are the cause behind WW2. No, but seriously, despite everything that was wrong about what he did, he was an amazingly charismatic leader of the people.

Bush, I wouldn't say is anything like Hitler, and I'll stand with you in that. I am highly partial to agree that it's an insult to our nation to make such a comparison. While I'm not a fan of Bush (nor do I think he could ever be as charismatic or as strong of a leader as Hitler), I will say he's in no way capable (mentally) of committing the same moral crimes that Hitler led a nation to perform. Hence, between the two, I'm glad we have Bush. Afterall, it could always be worse... We could have a lame and metally deranged monkey running this country. Just think of that monkey slamming on a red shiny button with all the fury a deranged monkey could muster in the attempts to get more banannas!

ANGLOIRISH
07-09-2005, 09:12 AM
I am a Bush supporter. I believe the Canadian government is wrong not supporting the Americans in their war on terror. They are as ridiculous as France and Germany in their thinking. It is time that the politicians remove their fingers from their noses and do something constructive to rid the world of evil terrorists.

Fox news interviewed a Canadian Intelligence Officer who admitted that there are terrorist operative cells active in Canada. What is being done about this frightening revelation? Not a thing! Immigration continues to allow Muslims to flock to our shores. Duh! It seems that Canada and Intelligence is an oxymoron.

The terrorists need to be hunted down and killed like the mad dogs they are. Canada is not immuned. The next level of terrorist attack is at our door. I don't understand why the countries are not banding together and destroying them where they live. Instead they are embracing the enemy and inviting them into our homes. What a joke!

MrsD
07-09-2005, 09:15 AM
Thanks, Irish. I know that Bush has a few shortcomings. He's my President, and in as much as I cringe sometimes when he opens his mouth, I support him. He has strong family values, doesn't SEEM like the kind of person who would go out and make a mockery of the Presidency by writing a tell-all book :eusa_thin , and is a strong defender of the right way to do things. I hate the fact that we have lost so many good men and women in Irag. Bush is right to go after these bastards, hunt them down and make life safe again for EVERYONE.

KorwinDallas
07-09-2005, 11:16 PM
I will say, that this whole War on Terrorism thing... let's face it, how can you declare war on something intangible. While we're at it, let's declare war on something equally silly... like negative thinking, or insults. Besides, classyifing all Muslim imigrants as potential terrorists is in no way better than our actions against the Japanese Americans during WW2. You can't damn the entire population of a religion, just because many of them don't particularly like the US. Besides, think of it in their terms... It can be very difficult for other countries to be amiable towards a country that's eating the majority of the world's resources, and producing more pollution and garbage than the rest of the world. And to top it off, we're less than a quarter of the world's population!

While terrorism is bad, and violence isn't the way to solve anything... for some people, it's their only method of expressing their views. If we ignore what others have to say, then what CAN they do to get our attention? US media and news sources follow a strict guideline of stories that Burn, Plead, or Bleed, are the ones that Lead. And this is all for ratings... and ratings = money. So if we don't listen to what anybody else says, then how will we ever know what's going on? Don't get me wrong, I don't think terrorism is an answer to anything, and I'm in no way trying to support it... but everyone on this planet should be entitled to opinions, ideas, and a point of view. Ignoring what other say, in no way makes you 'Right'.

MrsD
07-10-2005, 09:11 AM
I agree 100% that everyone on this planet has the right to voice their concerns, opinions and beliefs, and should not be chastised because of their views. If people don't like the US, that's OK and I agree, it's mostly well deserved. As far as terrorism being a WAY to voice opinions, that's NOT OK. These people are cowardly bullies and need to be stopped. Terrorism is not neccessarily an intangible; the world KNOWS where to start and some parts of the world are protecting that source. Is it fear, similar views or some sort of pay back? Could be all of those things.

I agree that classification of people based on their physical attributes, way of dress or religion is paramount to the ill treatment Japanese Americans suffered in World War II, and is wrong. I remember learning about the situation in school; I was outraged and still am. The US needs to REALLY scrutinize every citizen of another nation coming into this country. No more slip ups or clumsy, lazy actions.

There are other ways to settle disputes among countries. I know that to date they haven't been successful, but to cowardly plant bombs in other cities and make the lives of those citizens a nightmare is NOT voicing an opinion in my view. It's terrorism. Plain and simple and it needs to be eliminated. I support President Bush in this fight.

GoingNova
07-10-2005, 02:36 PM
While terrorism is bad, and violence isn't the way to solve anything... for some people, it's their only method of expressing their views. If we ignore what others have to say, then what CAN they do to get our attention?

I beg to differ: terrorism is not just BAD, it is an abomination! I don't care who you are or what you have to say, I stop listening to anything you have the say the second you plant a bomb on a bus and intentionally try to harm innocent men, women and children. At that point, there is nothing you can say to me that will ever change my opinion of you: you are the lowest form of life in existence, and you deserve nothing more than a horrible, torturous death. At that point you become lower than a cockroach, and deserve nothing short of extermination.

I have a three year old boy that I love more than anything in the universe, and even the thought of him losing his precious life while at the mail with his mommy enrages me to a point that I scare myself. I pray ever night that I never have to deal with that horrific situation, and my heart breaks when I think of the victims of these animals.

For the record, I remember dealing with parents BEFORE I was blessed with my son, and thinking, "Damn it, try to be rational will you!". I never understood how seemingly normal, calm people got so irrational when it came to any sort of emergency involving their child. Well, now I understand.

KorwinDallas
07-10-2005, 08:50 PM
I would like to mention again, that in no way do I support the violence and needless blood-shed, but I still fail to see how one can exactly declare war on terrorism. If you ask me, it was a scape-goat, used to reassure a nation on edge that everything was going to be ok. Terrorism is a term given to the actions of those who speak out violently for their beliefs, and terrorists are the ones that perform said actions. Declaring war vs. an action is little more babying those not intelligent enough to realize the bitter truth that not alot can truly be done. Except to bolster the defenses here in our home nation, no amount of effort spent outside of our country will calm those that hate us most.

And I'm sure all of our thoughts towards the US would be different, if we lived in 2nd or 3rd world country unable or barely capable of standing on it's own feet (economically speaking). We have it good. We have everything provided for us, and are told to live our lives without concern. All this, with a media that only tells us about what they consider will get the most ratings, or that directly concerns our country. We have pre-packaged food that we don't question where it comes from (or how safe it TRULY is). And more and more of our comercialisim is based upon 'convenience!' We eat food that's in no way healthy for us, all because it's "fast" and convenient. We have companies whose sole product kills people while making them addicted to it. Everything's provided for us, by a country who babies us and would rather we not question our lives.

I'm not saying violence, bloodshed , and terrorism is 'right' or should be supported. But what I'm saying that the US isn't the shining bastion of virtue and purity that we'd like to think it is. And many other countries have all the reasons in the world to hate us. Even those who we'd like to think we're on great terms with. I'm proud to be an American. And I'm proud of the freedom and the good things that it stands for. But I'm not proud of it's sins. Every coin has 2 sides, and our country is no different.

MrsD
07-10-2005, 10:14 PM
Dallas, I'm happy to have you on board, and have enjoyed every one of your posts and expect to enjoy many more. I agree with Nova. Your ideals are right on the mark, but when it comes to human EMOTIONS, nothing will defeat the parental need to protect their own. That's where I come from. Terrorism needs to be defeated, no matter WHERE it comes from.

GoingNova
07-11-2005, 10:03 PM
what I'm saying that the US isn't the shining bastion of virtue and purity that we'd like to think it is

I hear this either implied or directly said, quite often, and my response is, what country IS a shining bastion of virtue and purity? What country IS perfect? What country has a spotless record, and has never done anything wrong? France? England? Germany? Spain? Italy? Nope. Every country has skeletons in it's closet, so stop with the "we have done so much evil" stuff!

My answer to people when they say this is something I heard which was said by a German about the United States. It is not a direct quote, but it was more or less the following:

No other country, throughout the history of mankind, has ever amassed more power or more wealth than the United States. Nor has any other country, again, throughout the course of history, ever used it's wealth and power for the benefit of mankind as frequently as the United States.

In short, we are far from perfect, but no country has a spotless, unblemished record, and for anyone to imply that the United States is worse than any other "world power", or that we are this "great evil empire" is simply silly. Further, I would challenge anyone to name a country that has done more GOOD for it's friends and allies that the United States has. You would be hard pressed to back up your statement with facts, because when you look what we have done for the world since World War I, no other country comes close. Stop putting the spotlight on our negatives, when the good we do outweighs the bad so overwhelmingly!