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Beowulf
01-06-2004, 09:05 PM
Today I wish to discuss a little thing called marjiuana. As you all know this is an illegal substance and i am not encouraging or condoning the use of it.

First, I would like to start with a little background into the history of marjiuana. Marjiuana as we all know is a natural (for the most part) drug which is inhaled through pipes, bongs, bubblers, and so on. The hemp plant (male pot plant) was a very popular plant back in the day of Benjamin Franklin. In fact, he had fields of the stuff because hemp fabric is very strong and resilient. However, cotton and lumber industries were not fond of the competition and started a little thing known as "reefer madness." Reefer madness was basically a state of insanity supposidly caused by marjiuana. Whole bunch of false propaganda if you ask me.

That basically is what led to marjiuana being illegal today. Now why do us stoners smoke pot? Well we wouldnt do it unless there were some perks. But what are the downsides? Yes.....everyone knows the downsides to marjiuana. Thats all you learn about in health class, and hear about in the commercials you see. So what are the perks?

Well, for one once you are under the influence of marjiuana everything becomes extremely fun, as if it were the first time you could say. Feelings such as emotions, creativity and social interaction are heightened. Whereas motorskills, perception, rationality, and reality are dulled.

Is marjiuana really worth the trouble? Jail time, expulsion, stupidness, the reputation. Well, it all depends on the person and their situation.

Over my times of use i have to admit i have had quite a bit of fun. However a good 80% of the time i have used the stuff something bad has resulted from it. For instance....deciding not to do a paper because it would be funner to go hang with friends, letting a girlfriend down, getting in trouble, the list goes on and on.

My theory is that marjiuana is used by people who like to have fun and enjoy life, however this is not acceptable in our society today and you will get burned every time. Until society is as comfortable with marjiuana use as it is with alcohol. I would advise to stay away from it. Bottom Line...People are just looking for chances to burn marjiuana users.

By the way....I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions to this thread.

Matt Carr
01-06-2004, 09:31 PM
I think that having to use marijuana to make things fun must mean that the user is a pretty depressed guy. I would never take drugs because I don't need them to enjoy life and as you made aware, they cause a lot of problems.

I think that marijuana for medicinal purposes is fair enough if it helps, but other than that I don't think it should be legal.

Swazi
01-06-2004, 09:47 PM
Yes. I agree with you on most of that Coley. So why you still smoke weed, dork? Haha. Damn, we got some memories don't we?

d_07
01-06-2004, 09:48 PM
I honestly think,in my opinion,it's just another way of conformity.I see it all the time with kids who start at 13 or 14 examining others having "fun"(like your pointed).So they want to have to fun to,this might sound like I don't know even know what Im talking about cause I dont smoke weed.But some things are hard to people to see cause it's right infront of their face.I dont believe it is worth the risk for something so little that cost so damn much.

Swazi
01-06-2004, 09:52 PM
Ahhh... cost. The biggest contributing factor of quitting. It does cost an arm and a leg. That is probably a good thing though. If a 20 sack only cost 5 dollars then people would get stoned 4 times as much more than likely.

Beowulf
01-06-2004, 09:58 PM
Yes. I agree with you on most of that Coley. So why you still smoke weed, dork? Haha. Damn, we got some memories don't we?

Ya we did. Why do i still smoke weed? Two words...peer pressure. I have to listen to "come on coley, smoke a bowl" everyday from dustins ***** ass. Plus I don't use much foresight when it comes to fun now, trouble later.

Beowulf
01-06-2004, 10:01 PM
I think that having to use marijuana to make things fun must mean that the user is a pretty depressed guy. I would never take drugs because I don't need them to enjoy life and as you made aware, they cause a lot of problems.

I think that marijuana for medicinal purposes is fair enough if it helps, but other than that I don't think it should be legal.

How old are you? Listen to that wisdom you've developed, its precious. Give me a few more years to catch up.

Sorry about the double post.....what can i say

LSDuce
01-07-2004, 02:10 AM
Weed is great. I'm high most of the time. Im not gonna do it forever. Once I get a job I'll quit because that ****s too expensive. Right now I don't have any money to spend on weed anyway so it really doesnt matter. Even when Im broke I still seem to be able to smoke whenever I want.

Evan
01-07-2004, 02:16 PM
ok, my 2 cent.

I smoke weed because I like the way it makes me feel. Its also something to do while hanging out or at a party, its a better feeling then being drunk. And its a good way to make money. I sell more than I smoke, and have made probably around $4000. But as times change, I find myself going to sell different things. My newest item- pills.

GoingNova
01-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Ahhh, a chance to surprise people! I :D LOVE IT!

Actually, I have a problem with this one. In my mind, it is very difficult to distinguish the difference between marijuana and alcohol, and yet one is legal and one is not. I am not a doctor, but from what I have read about marijuana, it seems to have many of the same qualities of alcohol, so it is hard for me to rationalize why one is legal, and one is not. I have never tried marijuana, and that has only been because it is illegal. It it was legal, I most assuredly would have tried it. I guess, that in and of itself is a decent reason, keeping it illegal certainly does keep more people off of it. But if it were legalized, the government would be able to regulate it, and earn tax dollars.

I guess the reason is, and I say I guess because I have no experience with it, while you can drink one or two beers and still remain "sober", smoking one joint has more of a stronger effect on a person. Not sure. This is one of those issues that is difficult for me. Since I don't feel too strongly either way, I tend to go with keeping it illegal, just to be safe. :D

Of course, there is also the whole "gateway drug" argument.

GoingNova
01-16-2005, 12:09 PM
ok, my 2 cent.

I smoke weed because I like the way it makes me feel. Its also something to do while hanging out or at a party, its a better feeling then being drunk. And its a good way to make money. I sell more than I smoke, and have made probably around $4000. But as times change, I find myself going to sell different things. My newest item- pills.

This I disagree with, and I would warn you, it's all fun until you get caught. I don't know you, but I can tell you this, the BIG GUYS in jail rule the roost, and I am telling you, it is not a place you want to be. My advice, stop selling. The money you are making is not worth the risk of getting caught. Oh, if you think you will NEVER get caught, all I can say is, no one ever thinks they will get caught. All it takes is one person you sell to getting caught, or maybe even getting angry at you because they are broke, and can't get high, and he/she will give you up in a heart beat! I have family members who all thought they would never get caught, and so far they are 4 for 4: 3 in jail, and 1 dead. Just my experience. Stop before it is too late.

meezercat
01-16-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm not in favor of smoking it (though I won't condemn anyone who does as long as they're not at work or driving or something like that...), but I am all for hemp. Hemp makes some pretty nice stuff, and it's very eco-friendly.

Dr.G
01-17-2005, 02:00 AM
Lucifer? Is that you?
You're a long way away from INTL,are you not?

GOT POT?

MO
01-17-2005, 07:32 AM
Many of us like myself have smoked it in HS and college- I wouldn't want it to be part of my lifestyle as an adult.

Mainly, I think - Just take a look at the reasons you are smoking it to begin with. If its harmless fun for you and you are home (and not getting into a car) its your decision (although an illegal one).

Like an example of a reason-
I know of a 30 y/0 man who is actually bipolar and uses pot and alcohol instead of getting treatment. He was holding it together for a long time, then got rid of his business (sold to the partners) b/c of too much pressure, he said. (when he was very depressed, he would call out sick or not be able to focus) Then he worked a couple of other jobs and just got fired from one.

Katrina
01-19-2005, 05:19 PM
What's the big deal - this is something everybody did in high school, even the guys who are for outlawing it. It's all about $$. The ones who want it outlawed are the same guys who smoke it in secret and have something to gain. The ones who are for legalizing it are looking for taxes and stuff. If I want to smoke, I will. I'm not gonna go driving around stoned but I wouldn't drive gooned anyway. If my friends want to hang out with a couple of beers and some weed, who cares?

GoingNova
01-19-2005, 07:46 PM
What's the big deal

The big deal is, it's illegal. You are an adult. If you want to smoke it, that is your choice. But should you get caught and get arrested, you should be willing to accept the consequences.

Katrina
01-20-2005, 07:26 AM
Hey, we're all adults so what we do in private and not hurting anybody is no ones business. Just because it is against the law doesn't mean the law is right. You are an adult right? Do you always do every good thing an adult is supposed to do or do you just say you do?

GoingNova
01-20-2005, 07:52 AM
Nope. But if and when I get caught, I accept that what I did was wrong and I accept the consequences. I don't say, "This law is wrong" and complain about it.

It would be a chaotic world if people indiscriminately decided which laws to follow. Part of the reason I despise President Clinton so much is because, in my opinion, he set a dangerous precedent: he decided that because the matter he was being questioned about was "personal" and he personally felt it was unjust, it was ok for him to lie even though he was under oath. Now, I am not going to argue whether or not he SHOULD have been questioned, I am not going to argue how "big a deal" oral sex in the White House is,but I will say that for a President of the United States, who happened to be a lawyer, to take this position, is simply one of the most irresponsible and unethical things someone could do. I can forgive that he did it mind you, but what I can not forgive is that he never accepted responsibility for what he did, and still professes to have "done the right thing".

We are adults. People have to the right to protest laws. Engage in civil disobedience of said laws, and then go to jail for doing so. That is fine. The core of my argument is: you may have the right to disobey a law, but should you choose to do that, as a responsible person, you are obligated to accept the consequences. The day this is not the case, we will lose order as a society.

MrsD
01-20-2005, 08:35 AM
I have a bunch of friends who smoke (and we're all adults!). I don't, I guess in great part because I don't feel the need to do that just to have fun. Besides - it's pretty nasty! It doesn't bother me that my friends smoke but I do get nervous when it's in my house or on my property because it IS illegal and I just don't need that crap. I live a "normal" :rolleyes: law-abiding life. If it's illegal, it's illegal.

psi
01-21-2005, 03:38 AM
It's illegal mainly because it is classified as an illicit drug, narcotic. Codeine, which is also a narcotic and puts you to sleep because of its power as a suppressant is classified as a prescription drug. Now I've taken codeine and believe me it puts you sleep like that. Would you want me behind the wheel taking that? I bet not.

An adult should know better. That's like saying I want to take a drug and run over people. Admitting that you're an adult and can do what you want does affect others if you drive under the influence. If you think you are more aware or open minded and can drive you are saddenly mistaken in regards to reality. Watch any movie of stoners or real ones and they can talk back and forth with just ONE set of words over and over:

stoner 1: Dude!
stoner 2: yeah!
stoner 1: yeah!
stoner 2: dude?
stoner 1: yeah?
stoner 2: yeahhhh!
stoner 1: Dude!!!
repeat

If that's adult attitude and awareness check me into the looney bin. :rolleyes: