Moon Landing... hoax?

[Silverstrand]

Do you believe man actually stepped foot on the moon or was it all a hoax?

[Lord Lupus]

Well, whether or not we actually landed on the moon or not, I don't know.

But i'm guessing you're basing this topic on certain moon landing pictures with various errors.
In that case, those pics are highly suspicious, and if we did indeed land on the moon, then those pics, I think, must've been made afterwards 'cos the original pics turned out poorly.

Of course, there's the matter of the deadly radiation.
They were suppised to be protected by those spacesuits? Then why didn't they use them at Chernobyl? I seem to recall the space radiation being much deadlier.

There are more inconsistencies that i can't remember...

[mb90078]

I don't doubt that we could've reached the moon, but I don't have an answer to the pictures, nor does NASA...additionally, we haven't been to anxious to go (back). I guess I'd lean toward believing that we went, but wouldn't be shocked to find out otherwise.

[Advance]

We might have faked the first couple just to beat the Russians, but I guarantee we've been to the moon. It seems to me in all these years someone would've pulled out a telescope and realized the flag and all our junk isn't up there if we didn't.

In my opinion, this was all started by that outrageous FOX special.

[Silverstrand]

Originally posted by Advance
In my opinion, this was all started by that outrageous FOX special.

well, i've been speculating that we didnt go to the moon for about 4 years now. there is just to many things that dont quite fit.

[gekko]

We've been to the moon.

It's easy to twist facts. To the average viewer, if you tell them something, they believe it. For example, tell them that there's no wind on the moon, so there's no way the flag can blow. Seems like a good reason to most people. But there are a few things that they cleverly leave out. First is there is a horizantal pole at the top of the flag, because NASA knew that there is no wind on the moon. Second, the flag was twisted into the ground, putting it in motion, and a small pole was used, which is easy to bend. Let's not forget Newton's First Law here. That flag pole would vibrate, and the twisting motion would also help the flag move. Without air resistance, it will continue in motion for much longer than it would on Earth.

It's easy to feed on ignorance. The moon hoax is just another example where they twist facts, leaving things out that would disprove their argument, and making you believe the message they are trying to get across. Michael Moore does this in Bowling for Columbine, quite successfully seeing how many people believe what it said in that movie. Another one with rising popularity is the Pentagon bombing of 9/11. There was no plane that hit the Pentagon, it was actually a truck bomb, setup by our own government. At least, that's what they want you to believe.

[mb90078]

Why then, after years of attempting to write a book to prove it all, has NASA come up empty, time after time, with variuos autors quitting?

[Pedestrian]

ROFL ok... this is one of the most stupid thigns i've heard....

Of course they have landed o nthe moon.. god what is teh point in saying it LOL

and also i thought only Adminds/mods can make threads here...

You're a freak Silverstrand :p

[GINA]

hey, don't be rude

also, i hate to be so ignorant, but what pictures are you guys talking about? (haha can you tell i've been locked in my room studying all week)

[Jethro]

Total Hoax. You can't have five shadows!

[mb90078]

Different lights create different shadows.

[Advance]

The bottom line is that we have been to the moon. It's littered with our junk. The only debate is when we first got there, and whether that actually includes Buzz and company as history tells us.

[Manex]

my politics teacher thinks its a hoax...but i believe it. it is cool to think of it as a conspiracy...but its not

[gekko]

Originally posted by mb90078
Why then, after years of attempting to write a book to prove it all, has NASA come up empty, time after time, with variuos autors quitting?

Prove it to who? The general public who only knows what they hear? I guess we can fool international scientists, but we can't fool the Wal-Mart clerk.

[Lord Lupus]

Originally posted by Advance
The bottom line is that we have been to the moon. It's littered with our junk.

Do you know that for a fact?
Have you seen this 'junk' with your own eyes?

[Nemesis*]

Originally posted by Lord Lupus


Do you know that for a fact?
Have you seen this 'junk' with your own eyes?

That's exactly the point, maybe we did but then again maybe we didn't. We can never be too sure. I can say one thing though. The funds that make all this work are taking straight from our pockets. And I don't think some guy landing on the moon has made my rent cheaper, or paying for my car insurance. Its basically just a waist of time, when where talking about landing on the moon.

[Lord Lupus]

Most things in life are a waste of time.

Hell, most of Life is a waste of time.

[Advance]

Originally posted by Lord Lupus


Do you know that for a fact?
Have you seen this 'junk' with your own eyes?

You're telling me there are all these theorists out there not believing that we went to the moon and no one ever bothered to buy a telescope, point it at the moon, and look for themselves? Can you imagine how much those pictures would be worth? Or what about the people who watch the Hubble telescope? The moon may be far away, but just about anyone can take a good long look and check it out, and prove once and for all whether or not our stuff's up there. The moon is just an earshot away. It's not like the government's saying we went to Alpha Centuari.

[ziroi]

Will someone please tell me how the government could stage people being on the moon, in moon vehicles, depicting the earth, and simulating less than normal gravity in the 60's? You need to open your eyes and think for a minute. Computers were not common back then to help simulate moon scenery. And why would the government spend millions of dollars to lie to you? They spent those millions to go to the moon and conduct scientific research and exploration.

[mb90078]

If you have the technology to reach the moon, you certainly have the technology to fake it. They would spend the money to lie to beat the Soviet Union.

Yet they haven't been able to write that damn book proving they were on the moon.

[faint]

i like to believe that it did happen

[d2alio]

the other inadequacies that someone in this thread referred to was there was a shot that showed the flag that an astronaut had in his hand that was waving... the problem here is that it's impossible for a flag to wave with zero gravity ;) so... that picture obviously was not on the moon because there was wind present

[Advance]

Originally posted by d2alio
the other inadequacies that someone in this thread referred to was there was a shot that showed the flag that an astronaut had in his hand that was waving... the problem here is that it's impossible for a flag to wave with zero gravity ;) so... that picture obviously was not on the moon because there was wind present

If it's in his hand and his hand is moving, the flag would move too. And, because there's virtually no atmosphere on the moon, it's going to "blow" because of inertia for a very long time...

Besides, the moon has gravity. :p

[Master Mx]

The only way you can really know is to speak to those who 'went' to the moon, but they would say they went even if it was faked.

Personally i think that they did. i wish they would land on the moon again soon.

[assassingod]

No-one landed on the moon in the 60's. If you lot are talking about the picture I am thinking of, then the landing was a hoax. First off, look in the background, why were there no stars? Second, how did a moon-buggy the size of a mini fit on the space craft? Where did it come from, I doubt it was a self-assembly box. Third, "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" backwards sounds like "Man never space walked". Forth, why was the flag moving. Fifth, the suits the astronauts were wearing wouldn't of fitted in the spacecraft they landed, they were huge. Sixth, why did they take a camera? Seventh, again with the size of the craft, 3 men could not of fitted in the tiny vessle..

And on that note, no plane crashed in the pentagon.

[Mechknuckles]

This is the first time i've ever heard of the moon landings beinh a hoax. This si a shiload to digest. Gimme a few minutes and maybe i'll figure out what I think:p

[Scatophobe]

I believe the moon landing was possibly a hoax, I really don't know. The point that there were no stars is the most convincing.

And how did they make themselves look like they were on the moon? Quite easy if you play back the tape in slow motion. They supposedly shot the whole scene in a desert.

[toothcake]

Originally posted by assassingod
No-one landed on the moon in the 60's. If you lot are talking about the picture I am thinking of, then the landing was a hoax. First off, look in the background, why were there no stars? Second, how did a moon-buggy the size of a mini fit on the space craft? Where did it come from, I doubt it was a self-assembly box. Third, "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" backwards sounds like "Man never space walked". Forth, why was the flag moving. Fifth, the suits the astronauts were wearing wouldn't of fitted in the spacecraft they landed, they were huge. Sixth, why did they take a camera? Seventh, again with the size of the craft, 3 men could not of fitted in the tiny vessle..

And on that note, no plane crashed in the pentagon.



No stars because the picture got printed retarded? the camera was on focus on something else, therfore, back then maybe the background could not be seen well?

The ship was actually quite big, it was "crowded" though. If you look at video's when they leave the ship and stuff, you'll see how it all fitted.

And i haven't researched this quite yet, but the moon buggy i believe was assembled on the moon.


"One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind"
that quote sounds more like... "Kind man for leap giant one, man for step small one"

Not man never spaced walk... that has nothing to do with it... OBVIOUSLY :p


and the suits fit also, they werent THAT huge, just like shoving a suit in a large briefcase ;) and puting a helmet under the bunk bed :p


They brought a camera to PROVE that they were on the moon?


And 3 men did fit, the vessel wasn't that small :p






And no, I don't believe it happened but i don't deny it... i simply dont care :p



Just what you wrote proves nothing :p

[xNaChOx]

Originally posted by assassingod
And on that note, no plane crashed in the pentagon.

That is the stupidest and most disgraceful thing I have seen in this horrible thread! Who told you this? The evidence is there! People all over saw it. Even this jerky moon argument is more convincing!

[ziroi]

This is for anyone who believes the moon landing was a hoax. Many questions about the so-called missing stars, waving flag, moon backdrops, shadow issues and more are answered here along with many other questions.

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

Originally posted by assassingod
No-one landed on the moon in the 60's.

Uhm, yea they did. Neil Armstrong landed on the moon (yes, humans did IN FACT land on the moon) in 1969.

They would spend the money to lie to beat the Soviet Union.

This would be my mistake (although it wasn't a lie:rollseyes). I learned this not long ago. The race to the moon was more for political reasons. Guess I need to read up more on that.

[xNaChOx]

Neil Armstrong landed on the moon.. no questions..

[assassingod]

Lots of quotes by me here.

I still think no-one landed on the moon in the sixties (I do believe however we have been to the moon, and landed on it), it was hoaxed to be Russia in the space race. I stick with my evidence, also about the comment Niel Armstrong, I do not have a reliable source on this, but 'Dniknam rof peal tniag eno nam rof pets llams eno', true it does look like Man Never space walked, but play it backwards, you will be pleasntly surprised:)

There are some other things that are so obvious that it was fake, but I can't remember

And again, no plane crashed into the pentagon, read the facts, it was a coach.

[David_TheMan]

Of course the moon landing was a hoax. No way the astronaughts who landed on the moon would come back normal after going through the heavy radiation Van Allen's belt. too much radiation for a man to handle with only alluminum as a barrier. Also to much flag movement in the moon landing footage.

[ziroi]

Originally posted by David_TheMan
Of course the moon landing was a hoax. No way the astronaughts who landed on the moon would come back normal after going through the heavy radiation Van Allen's belt. too much radiation for a man to handle with only alluminum as a barrier.

Wow, uh...have you checked this site that I posted earlier:
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

Also to much flag movement in the moon landing footage.

You contradicted your own sentence right there. :rollseyes

[assassingod]

More facts about the mood landing hoax:

Double the speed of the film and it looks like the astroNOTs are running normally, same with the buggy if you speed the film of that up it looks like its driving normally.

Theres also the fact that theres no blast crater beneth the ship.

Cross hairs were put on the picture when devolped, which means that they would be infront of everything, yet they are behind some things in some photos (flag, spaceman, equipment)

Then theres what David_TheMan said, the radiation was at its highest in 1969.

There also other things, like they had to leave the buggy on the moon, which means it would still be there today, why has no other space mission seen it?

moon landing = haox:)

[Scatophobe]

After looking at the site posted by ziroi, I have to agree that they did probably land on the moon. All popular theories are disproved.

[xNaChOx]

ees. To even hing that it was a hoax degrades you as an American. This was one of the U.S.'s greatest accomplishments. Sorry if I am not respecting opinions, but c'mon. 0_o